Star Trek new series (2017 CBS online) update

[Jeff T]

Here it is on Youtube too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM

[Kheren]

My nightmare coming to life:the  Abramsverse utterly corrupting the original universe.

The opening in a desert with flowing robes is clearly a Star wars rip off (episode I, IV, VII). More to the point, it emphasize planetside point of view instead or space point of view, the hallmark of classic trek (space, the final frontier and so on). And warp speed still looks like a lightspeed tunnel concept.

Showing the starship in the atmosphere (when they clearly have transporter tech) is the typical Abrams empty drama shot that makes no sense (remember the Enterprise underwater?)

Bridge looking like a factory with no grace or esthaetics but more starwashy once again (of course all ships must look like "bucket of bolts" like the Millenium Falcon old  Corelian freighter)

Klingons revamped for no reason at all except to look different (and a poor job at that; they look exactly like the fishmen from the old puppet show Stingray).

Ripping off best of Both Worlds to "hommage" TNG (we have engaged the Borg... sorry, the Klingons) and ripping off Into Darkness (Starfleet don't fire first; maybe we should... we have to). Hommage being the Abrams trendy word for rip off... and justify lazy writing.

Coming up with nonsense "drama" characters (my species was biologically determined to sense death).

Apart from Vulcans (of course) and Klingons (in name only) again not even one classic Trek alien featured but tons of Mos Eisley refugees.

Artificial drama (again) by ignoring canon (you can not learn Vulcan; why is it so dramatic? They have had universal translators for a hundred years now!).

And to make it all sink further down: the return of F***KING LENSE FLARES!

And notice there is no scene with the USS Discovery herself despite the show being named after her? Either they still have no new look for her... (since there is no reason to have one in the first place) or they have kept their flying saucepan and will dump her on us when it will be too late to grumble about it. Although the poster seem to give us a(very small) glimpse of it (and to be honest, it at least looks better than the monstrosity they first proposed. But this way of not really showing it is cause for concern still).

They better have an emmy award-winning script to salvage this, or it will kill Star Trek for good.

And with Kurtzman so obviously behind all this, MOST unlikely. And the premisce heavily suggests that this is about the Axanar event, hence the lawsuit CBS filed earlier...

[Sorripto]

All those points are valid, and ones I have made before. I also have two major issues. They are using the Enterprise symbol, which did not become the Starfleet mainstay until years later, and the technology is clearly decades ahead of Star Trek. There were no holograms, interactive lights or even cybernetic advancements back then. This show will also be a CBS streaming exclusive, which means it will reach a much smaller audience. As a member of a Star Trek fan club, and from this fleet, I no of zero Star Trek fans who are going to subscribe to it for one show that looks terrible.

[Kheren]

Well I could live with tech upgrades to match current-projected developpement into the 23rd century; after all, much of what appeared highly futuristic in the 60's is even today mainstream! If not better; what we can do with smartphones today is quite beyond Kirk's communicator or Picard's PADD... and this centuries before them! A sci-fi show worth it's salt has to take that into account to be beleivable.

That being said, this is only if they have in mind to truly revamp (not reboot) the franchise to bring it up to our current state. Remember that in TOS they stated a 3rd world war in the nineties and long range spaceflight with cryogenics  and genetic enhancements in 1996. There is a lot to ajust if Star Trek is to be revived to cater properly to our modern era.

But that would be to give them more credit than they deserve. They're not out there to bring up this franchise or work with it's concept or even to make excellent sci-fi and storytelling like Roddenberry was in his days; they only want to commercially exploit a lucrative franchise, squeeze the lemon until it dries up. Hence the CBS Access exclusive,  Abramsverse visual style and the lazy, uninspired Kurtzman writing... and why a real Star trek alumni like brian Fuller is not there anymore.

Fortunately for them, they might make a few bucks because everywhere else but the US it will be on Netflix and here in Canada on Space channel

I would like so much for this to surprise me...

[BLZBUB]

Star Trek: Discovery Sets Premiere Date ...

http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-discovery-sets-premiere-date

CBS has released the series premiere date for Discovery in the above link from Startrek dot com.

United States: - -  Sunday, September 24 with a broadcast premiere that night on the CBS Television Network airing at 8:30-9:30 PM, ET/PT (time approximate following NFL Football and 60 Minutes).  The second episode of the series will be available on the CBS All Access service that same night immediately following the broadcast premiere.
 
After premiere night, all new episodes will be available on-demand weekly on Sundays exclusively for CBS All Access subscribers in the U.S. The 15-episode season will be released in two chapters. The first eight episodes will run from Sunday, Sept. 24 through Sunday, Nov. 5. The season will then resume with the second chapter debuting in January 2018.


Canada: - - Space Channel will launch the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery on Sunday, September 24 at 8:30 PM ET. The first eight episodes will run from Sunday, September 24 through Sunday, November 5. The season will then resume with the second chapter in January 2018.

 Every episode will also be available to Space subscribers on the newly launched Space GO app, in addition to being available on Space.ca and participating On Demand channels. Star Trek: Discovery will also stream exclusively in Canada on CraveTV, with full scheduling details to be released in the coming weeks.


Rest of world: Netflix - - First eight episodes will run from Monday, September 25 through Monday, November 6 with the second chapter in January 2018. 

[Kheren]

Seem they have thrown a life preserver to the series:



https://ca.yahoo.com/news/star-trek-dis ... 05537.html



Will this make a difference when we know another Trek Alumni, Brian Fuller, was ousted out for allegedly standing up for true Trek?

Answer forthcoming on Sept 24th I guess. 

[Jureth]

So did anyone watch it? thoughts? I did not. I'm annoyed at CBS for the way they are approaching this tbh. 

[InfernalPotato]

I'm a filthy cable cutter and I was at work during the premiere, so I had zero chance to watch it on network television. I'm also not subscribing to yet another streaming service JUST to watch STD, since in my opinion all the other shows on CBS are garbage now that Craig Ferguson is gone.

I'm jealous of all you folks in other countries who have alternatives, but it looks to me like in the US at least, CBS wants STD to fight a mighty battle with Game of Thrones for most pirated TV series ever.

[Kheren]

I'll be following it since here in Canada it is accessible through mainstream cable TV and showing Sunday evening; nothing better on that timeslot anyway and not much else to do in that timeframe heh

So far it is watchable, not as moronic and canon sh*ting as Abrams STINOs despite the ridiculously dark interiors and f***cking lense flares some morons still think are, I don't know, stylish?

Characters are interesting and except at the end of episode two (again the typical Kurtzman inept writing and characterizations), their behavior is not as ridiculous as the Kirk-Spock and crew reboot. At least the antagonists (the Klingons) are not some childish comic book villain making no sense like the infamous Nero. Actually, they revealed themselves to be pretty interesting in their new take. Time will tell if it really comes to something great as they obviously hope.

There are of course a few absurd sequences that are typically just forcefully contrived to make an impression, like the signal in the sand to call the starship down from space (when it could not even detect them and there is a massively thick cloud-covering so that the ship can "emerge gloriously" and land (yeah thanks VOY for that) but still see the signal from way up there?). Epic fail as usual. It just look artificial and theatrical and makes no sense outside of that.

Now if they can ditch that idiotic Abrams style of doing things just for the wow factor (which never works), it will already get way better.

Storywise they have a decent start. I was only put off by the second episode cliffhanger, so cliche and contrived and barely beleivable that I'm already cringing at the very cliche episode 3 we will so obviously get from this boring, so overused cliffhanger (a la VOY again).

And the USS Discovery is coming; despite promises, it will be the very same illegitimate sunburned child of a star destroyer ramming a Connie they first showed initially. After seeing the Shenzou and the other starships they made for this reboot, some pretty good-looking, this is going to be a big letdown to have this flying saucepan in our face for the remaining 11 episodes.

Hope the story and portrayal and production value will be good enough to compensate. All in all, a decent start but much room for improvement. Just letting go the Abrams way alone would already be a huge step up; light up that bridge, remove the lense flares, forget wowing empty scenes, ditch the starwarshy effects and have a care for character behavior and avoid recipe writing (in short, kick Kurtzman out).

Stay tuned.

[Redding]

I just plan on staying as far away from supporting this as possible, we really need is to show them there's no money in making trash Trek (Hay, I think I'll claim that.. "Trash Trek")
Anyway, I'm not saying I wont ever watch it, but anything (Even the stuff in Timelines) that promotes it I'm going to shun.