Star Trek next movie? Likely without Quentin Tarantino...

[Jeff T]

Here's the text from the *article sited below:

"Quentin Tarantino has confirmed he probably won't direct the R-Rated Star Trek movie that he originally pitched to Paramount.

Speaking to Deadline, the Oscar-winning filmmaker admitted it is now unlikely that he will take the captain's chair as the director of a new Star Trek movie at the studio, though he isn't necessarily steering away from the project entirely.

"I think they might make that movie, but I just don't think I'm going to direct it," he said. "It's a good idea. They should definitely do it and I'll be happy to come in and give them some notes on the first rough cut.

"Tarantino was first attached to the Star Trek project in December 2017, as it came to light that he had apparently pitched a "great idea" to J.J. Abrams, who rebooted the franchise in 2009, and the two were said to be developing the story alongside The Revenant writer Mark L. Smith.

However, Tarantino appeared to take a sidestep away from the Star Trek project amid the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood press tour, as he admitted the Manson-centric movie could be his swansong, despite the fact that it is his ninth film and he previously stated he would like to retire from the industry once his filmography hits double figures.

While it remains unclear whether Tarantino's Star Trek project will ever beam onto the big screen (with another filmmaker at the helm), the long-spanning sci-fi franchise seems to be experiencing warp-speed success on the small screen.

Outside of Star Trek: Discovery, Picard, and Section 31, it was recently revealed that two more live-action shows are expected to join the Trek universe while another recent transmission confirmed that Star Trek: Picard had been renewed for a second season ahead of its upcoming debut on January 23, 2020."

* From <https://www.ign.com/articles/quentin-tarantino-confirms-he-probably-wont-direct-a-new-star-trek-movie> 

So... we had this kind of discussion in chat previously, but now that Quentin is likely out, who would be your dream director and why?
Any specific cast/incarnation or entirely new? Plot?

[Kheren]

Umh no... an R-rated Star Trek is meaningless. It would add absolutely nothing to the franchise. At least, it would not at all help bring it back on track.

Good thing Tarantino is opting out. Although he is a declared Star Trek fan and didn't hesitate to tell Abrams to his face that his take on Trek was total crap, we know by his body of work that he would not have respected the franchise either; like everything else he made, he would have spinned it into his own pet tropes and damn the rest.

As for the ''warpspeed success'' of current Star Trek, that is the joke of the year. This article is written by a shill sold to CBS and/or Screwing Hideout.

STD is a dismal failure with the fans and commercially; Netflix can't wait to get out of it's ill-advised deal with CBS and would not even pay a cent for the absolutely awful Short Treks it spawned. 

Netflix also rejected Star Trek Picard right out of the bat when they saw what it was intended to be and the same inept production staff as STD was attached to it (hence why it's now on Amazon Prime). Even Space in Canada waited an inordinate amount of time before commiting to buy it for Canadian distribution.

All merchandizing licencies bailed out on unsellable (because unpopular) STD stuff and reportedly stormed out angrily with no deal when they saw the first screenings of Star Trek Picard, refusing any further call until '' they made that crap right.'' One thing for sure, the ''warping succeeding franchise's'' merchandizing is slim to none; none so far in the case of the Picard Show.

STD 3rd season is now, like was season 2, already so over budget that Star Trek Picard was amputated of it's own struggling budget to compensate. The preview of the three first episodes state that they don't even have any space scenes; happening entirely on Earth. A Star Trek show that starts off with no Star and no Trek. And Stewart in an interview stated that this will be the antithesis of TNG by his own will and desire while Kurtzman confirmed it is directly linked to STD and the Abramsverse, not even remotely related to TNG. Fans are not reacting positively to these news, to put it politely.

The parade of showrunners in two years is not any indication of a healthy, prosper franchise either.

Announcing a second STP season means nothing. Just like announcing Star Trek 4 just prior to the release of Star Trek Beyond was only meant to try to boost it's predicted bad sales. No Star Trek 4 is even on the horizon years later and the Kelvin timeline has been all but shelved except in STO. Same with the Section 31 show; there is not even a line of script written yet or any cent attached to it. All other announcements except the animated Trek spoof Lower Decks have yet to be confirmed.

Annoucing show projects never garantee they will ever be made, let alone speak of success. Look at all the Game of Thrones spin-off shows announced and now being cancelled, or the announced then scraped Rian Johnson Star Wras trilogy or the one from the Game of Thrones  showrunners. All of this is just a sales pitch for an obviously ailing franchise. 

There is light on the horizon however. 

Viacom and CBS have re-merged and with it all rigths to Trek.

Les Moonves, the guy who killed ENT and hired Kurtzman and Screwing Hideout to make his Not-Star-Trek Star Trek has been ousted, and after that most of his staff.

Kurtzman himself has been sidelined as much as his contract is allowing CBS to.

Sheri Redstone, the current CEO at the new VIACOMCBS (that she made possible) is a fan of Classic Trek and is reportedly very displeased with the current state and take of Star Trek. She is very much aware that Star TRek is their flagship and watching very closely what is happening. Hence why all the Kurtzmantrek that has not already been invested in is on hold. With any luck, it will never see the light of day.

Meanwhile, Seth McFarlane, a true fan and competent producer, (as proven by his already filmed 3rd season of his acclaimed and popular Star-Trek-in-all-but-name series The Orville) is now free from his contract and is apparently starting to pitch again for Star TRek.