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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Kheren » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:40 am

Well the STP one has been removed... and the STD one tells us that Season 3 will be a rip off of Andromeda.

Oh well, The Orville too is going on it's 3rd season.

And Axanar is currently shooting... although CBS has slapped them with a lawsuit again.

How I wish they would have hired these guys instead of the Kurtzman wrecking crew. We are two Short Treks in and it's a worsening disaster. (spoiler alert if you unblack the following):  Singing smiling Spock? Retarded Starfleet officer with popcorn tribbles? Not looking good at all.
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Jeff T » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:49 pm

Watched the Picard trailer. It was nostalgic and made me feel even older as I watched the aging crew. lol

Who knows how this will turn out, but it was great seeing the old cast.

The Discovery trailer... that was bizarre. They should have diverted this whole thing to Captain Pike and let that be the series direction. But alas... the Discovery name...
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Sorripto » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:04 pm

Discovery should not have made it this far. I honestly feel they have not canceled it yet out of sheer will to keep it around and prove the doubters wrong. The new Picard trailer looks interesting, but I still will not buy CBS all access just for one show.
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby BLZBUB » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:36 pm

 The first 3 photos at startrek dot com ( link below ) shows the new Star Trek: Picard Admiral uniform. I don't think I like it.


https://ca.startrek.com/gallery/destination-star-trek-day-one/first-look-at-an-admiral-picard-uniform-2385-421
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Kheren » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:33 pm

STD is still alive because they have a contract with Kurtzman and Secret Hideout/Bad Robot. This is the one thing they are excelling at; getting good contracts.

Also, CBS is well aware that Star Trek is their potential flagship and goldmine. But now that they screwed themselves up with the current team and it's awful iteration, they have a hard time untangling themselves from the mess without loosing their golden goose.

I expect this 3rd season to be the same chaotic mess as the 2nd one, veering off this way and that and scrambling to correct course as, after each episode, the winds blow hard on them from the fans, the investors and the creators( if there are any on this show; so far the crappy writing is it's worst problem since day one).

What their current short Treks are showing is so deplorable,that the atrocious USS Discovery and the despicable Michael Burnham are still center pieces, I have no hope for this STINO left. By throwing them into the far future and ripping off Andromeda, they basically got a license to get loose with nonsense and ignore everything Star Trek ever was and ever stood for.

Since we have the exact same team on the Picard show, my hopes are barely higher. Nothing in the trailers even looks interesting. And a lot of the cheap fan service style of Kurtzman is showing aplenty in what feels like a hodgepodge of Trek tropes wrapped around another ''wonder girl saving the universe'' cliche story so prevalent these days.

I do hope I'm wrong. But...

Meanwhile, back on the Orville...
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Redding » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:04 pm

From what I've been able to cobble togeather it's worse than we thought.
The title 'Picard' isn't really referring to Jean-Luc himself, whom they might killing off in the first few episodes.
But the girl we see him helping, his half-Romulan daughter.
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Kheren » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:20 pm

Could be.

As a major movie name now, Stewart's salary must be prohibitive for a TV show; especially one that cannot back itself with the failure of STD who went way overbudget with little returns. 

It also lines up with their ''subvert expectations'' storytelling style crap of their guru, Jar Jar Abrams.

They only need him to start the ball rolling. And then, they expect us to grab on to their new princess-of-power character because she would be related to a beloved iconic one. Disney is trying the same scheme with the upcoming Episode IX; Mary Sue Rey being the grandaughter of Palpatine and ending the film by saying that her name is Rey... Skywalker.

If we're lucky, VERY lucky, we will end up with a pleasant surprise like The Mandalorian. But with Kurtzman and his Secret Hideout still very much in place, I'm not counting on it. So far, the trailers are not promising and quite in line with their previous STD crap. And the latest Short Treks have been unmitigated disasters.

We'll see soon enough. Fortunately for me, it will be on Cable TV in Canada.
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Redding » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:36 pm

Sadly it seems we will have to wait longer for anything real to come back to Star Trek, Picard is already hitting all the points for discovery trash episodes.
But lets not give up hope entirely, as long as we survive it can't out right die.|
Surly it has to end at some point.
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Kheren » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:35 am

Indeed, everything bad about STD has been confirmed for STP.

However, Sheri Redstone is watching things very closely; she is the boss now and quite aware that Star Trek should be their flagship at CBS; and that it has failed spectacularly since the end of ENT and the rise of Bad Reboot and Screwing Hideout.

WE all want for Star Trek to succeed. No one wants Picard to be trashed like everything else so far has been; but this is apparently inevitable now, thanks in no small part to Sir Patrick himself who has no clue whatsoever what Star Trek is.

Remember, he's the one who insisted for the dune buggy in Nemesis.

So let's hope, even before STD3 is out, that STP will put the final nail in the coffin of the alternate Star Trek license Bad Reboot and Screwing Hideout still have. Then we can hope for Star Trek to come back again after 15 years of crap.
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Re: Jean-Luc Picard is back! New Star Trek Series!

Postby Jeff T » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:38 am

It's too bad that CBS doesn't have the sense to adopt a series like Star Trek Continues. 

They had everything in place, including sets and actors, to create "2 Years" worth of episodes over time to complete the 5-year mission.

I'm certain if they would be paid and permitted to do what they love, everyone involved in that production would love to jump back in and continue the journey even further.

Something like this would be a win-win for CBS. The costs would be very low compared to Discovery, and the story content would be much greater. And it would be the first time they would be offering some real Star Trek to fans in almost 2 decades. As Kheren noted, it's way past time to put an end to bogus Jar Jar Abrams, Bad Robot, etc... imitation Star Trek! It's time to introduce some real Star Trek to new generations and bring it back home to us Trek fans that have been a part of this for 50 plus years!

From there, a new series could be created, but only with those involved that have a grasp and a historical perspective on what authentically encapsulates Star Trek.
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